Especially Pakistani guys who are not very well versed on contemporary religions and cultures and some historical aspects in sub-continent of India may be misguided by some misrepresentation of ancient history of this region by Mullah Omer.
Let me straighten it here that I dont believe in any religion. I believe that all religions have seggregated humanity more than ever than they have actually solved the basic problems faced by man at grassroot level. They are more or less curse on a common human being.
All religions have some good and bad points.
So whats the big deal....?
Islam is the youngest religion of our times.
All ancient religions have gone through reforms to adapt to ever changing human experience and growth in human knowledge about himslef and his immediate surroundings and the cosmos we live in.
After all,all these religions and belief systems were created by humans themselves...
So was Sati- Pratha by Aryan-Hindu culture.
Guys this was denounced by Budha long before Christ was born,Jainism,the by AKBAR THE GREAT MUGHAL EMPORER OF INDIA,British in 18th Century.
Sati Pratha is Crime in modern India .It is punishable by law.
It is banned in India for the last approximately 200 years.
I am providing documentary evidence based as per legislation when India was under British occpation.
You can make your own decisions..
Sati: a historical perspective
By Versha GoenkaSource: This article appeared in the April-May 2004 issue of the ' Lawyers Collective'
In the past, Hindu women from royal families used to burn themselves unchecked in the name of sati. Akbar, for the first time, successfully insisted that no woman could commit sati without the specific permission of his Kotwals. Once the Kotwals got to know about it, they were instructed to delay the woman's decision for as long as possible and to offer pensions, gifts and rehabilitative help to prevent women from committing sati. However, the practice continued in the areas outside Agra. In their own sphere of influence the Portuguese, Dutch and French banned sati but efforts to stamp out sati were formalised only under Lord William Bentinck after 1829.
British regulationLord Bentinck was influenced by the constant efforts of the missionaries and was further encouraged by an influential section of Hindus led by Raja Ram Mohan Roy's Brahmo Samaj to take concrete action against the practice of Sati.
He conducted an opinion poll through his administrators to discover whether a legislation against sati was advisable and whether Hindu resistance could be contained, to which there was a positive response. Finally, within 18 months of his appointment as the Governor of Bengal, he passed the Sati Regulation, XVII of 1827 on 4 December. The highlights of the said regulation are as follows:
Even before the regulation was passed, the orthodox Hindus petitioned Lord Bentinck to stop the abolition claiming that sati was a "privilege" of believers. The more orthodox Hindus formed a group and collected funds to contest a petition against the regulation in the court upto the Privy Council. Raja Ram Mohan Roy assisted the government in their representations before the Privy Council in England. The orthodox Hindus pleaded that a basic assurance was given in George III Statute 37 whereby the Hindus were assured complete non-interference with their religion. The abolitionists argued against the said freedom of religion as inhuman. Finally, the Privy Council upheld the regulation.
Gradually, Madras and then Bombay passed their own legislation banning sati and the local rulers increasingly started conceded. The rulers of Jaipur banned it in 1846.
General provisions under the IPCInitially, T B Macaulay intended to treat sati as murder, but with the revision of the first draft, an exception to section 300 was enacted, which said "the person whose death is caused, being above the age of 18 years, suffers death or takes the risk of death with his own consent." This exception mitigated the punishment for murder.
However, there are a number of provisions under which the persons supporting the execution of sati can be held. In case the woman is forced, it shall be treated as plain murder, but where the woman has conducted sati on her own volition, those who have assisted her can be held for culpable homicide and/or abetment to suicide. Presence of any intoxicant or anything that inhibits free will of the woman would attract section 305, the punishment of which is exactly the same as for murder. Similarly, when the act is not accomplished, provisions of attempt to murder, attempt to culpable homicide not amounting to murder or abetment to suicide would be attracted.
Likewise, provisions of instigation, conspiracy to do an act or make an illegal omission, intentional aiding or wilful misrepresentation or wilful concealment can be attracted depending on the nature of the case.
Special law on satiIn 1987, four months after the Roop Kanwar incident at Deorala, the focus of attention of the women's groups shifted to the need for central legislation to stamp out the oppressive practice of Sati. Rallies were conducted particularly in Delhi, Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh and the women activists called for stringent legislation against the glorification of murder of widows. Consequently, by October 1, 1987, the Rajasthan Legislature was forced to promulgate an ordinance against sati which is now a State Act passed by assembly and upheld by the Rajasthan High Court. By the beginning of the year 1988, the Commission of Sati (Prevention) Act, 1987 (hereinafter referred to as 'the Act') had passed through both houses with a minimum of debate or amendment.
The Act clearly states that burning or burying alive of widows is revolting to the feelings of human nature and is not enjoined in the religion. The Act recognises the following as offences:
ConclusionThe special law was enacted with the hope to prevent the commission, abetment and glorification of sati. What the law-makers ignored at that time was that the judges presiding over the special courts or the district magistrates and the collectors with special powers cannot help being influenced by the strong sensitivities of the staunchly religious peoples around them or the political pressure which our leaders are capable of exercising on these officers. As a result of this, we still hear about incidents of sati, though admittedly they are very few in number and those who are brought to the Court, like in Roop Kunwar's case are acquitted.
quote: Originally posted by: Storms"Hinduism is an ancient myth based religion. It has no place in a modern educated society. Most Hindu's I know in the UK are well educated and liberal... they eat meat, drink alcohol, they don't even know what 'Sati' means. But they celebrate deepavali. I think Hindu's in India are also heading in this direction... it's a positive move. Storms" All religions are mythical.All religions are based on belief in God.And nobody really for sure knows whether God exists or not.Therefore its myth. I know lots of Pakistani doctors and few of Pakistani lady doctors who drink in parties.Personally I dont care.Eating ,drinking is personal preference. Shafique
quote: Originally posted by: Storms"Hinduism is an ancient myth based religion. It has no place in a modern educated society. Most Hindu's I know in the UK are well educated and liberal... they eat meat, drink alcohol, they don't even know what 'Sati' means. But they celebrate deepavali. I think Hindu's in India are also heading in this direction... it's a positive move. Storms"
All religions are mythical.
All religions are based on belief in God.
And nobody really for sure knows whether God exists or not.
Therefore its myth.
I know lots of Pakistani doctors and few of Pakistani lady doctors who drink in parties.Personally I dont care.Eating ,drinking is personal preference.
What kind of sh!tty mythology is this one?
Rats Rule at Indian Temple
Sharon Guynup and Nicolas RuggiaNational Geographic ChannelJune 29, 2004The floors are a living tangle of undulating fur. Small, brown blurs scurry across marble floors. Thousands of rats dine with people and scamper over their feet.
It may sound like a nightmare from the New York City subway to some, but in India's small northwestern city of Deshnoke, this is a place of worship: Rajastan's famous Karni Mata Temple.
Twenty thousand rats inhabit and are woshipped in northwestern India's KarniMata Temple.
This ornate, isolated Hindu temple was constructed by Maharaja Ganga Singh in the early 1900s as a tribute to the rat goddess, Karni Mata. Intricate marble panels line the entrance and the floors, and silver and gold decorations are found throughout.
But by far the most intriguing aspect of the interior is the 20,000-odd rats that call this temple home. These holy animals are called kabbas, and many people travel great distances to pay their respects.
The legend goes that Karni Mata, a mystic matriarch from the 14th century, was an incarnation of Durga, the goddess of power and victory. At some point during her life, the child of one of her clansmen died. She attempted to bring the child back to life, only to be told by Yama, the god of death, that he had already been reincarnated.
Karni Mata cut a deal with Yama: From that point forward, all of her tribespeople would be reborn as rats until they could be born back into the clan.
In Hinduism, death marks the end of one chapter and the beginning of a new one on the path to a soul's eventual oneness with the universe. This cycle of transmigration is known as samsara and is precisely why Karni Mata's rats are treated like royalty.
Gautam Ghosh, professor of anthropology and Asian studies at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia, noted how rare this rat-worshipping temple is. "In India, as in the West, rats aren't treated with particular veneration."
In Hinduism, many deities take animals forms. "The main theological point is that there's no dividing line between what forms gods or goddesses can use," said Rachel Fell McDermott, professor of Asian and Middle Eastern cultures at Barnard College in New York City. "There's nothing to say they can't take form as a fish, a bird, or even a rat."
Ghosh noted that this temple is linked to the royal family who ruled Bikaner, a nearby city. When a Hindu royal family is seeking greater power, they look to the local cults for a patron god—or, according to London-based art historian George Michell, usually a goddess—to help them attain that power.
The male gods are not as powerful for direct involvement in people's lives, he explained, so cults surrounding local goddesses are commonly used to help sway things in their favor. "Kings who want to be powerful in India must be protected by goddesses," Michell said. This is how the Karni Mata Temple was established.
The temple draws Hindu visitors from across the country hoping for blessings, as well as curious tourists from around the world. Inside, where shoes are not permitted, tourists and worshippers alike hope to have rats run across their feet for good luck.
Eating food or drinking water that previously has been sampled by a rat is considered to be a supreme blessing. But there is one rare blessing that draws the most attention: the sighting of a white rat.
Out of all of the thousands of rats in the temple, there are said to be four or five white rats, which are considered to be especially holy. They are believed be the manifestations of Karni Mata herself and her kin. Sighting them is a special charm, and visitors put in extensive efforts to bring them forth, offering prasad, a candylike food.
Unlike the rest of the world, where rats are commonly killed for inhabiting the same space as humans, in this temple the rat residents are treated with sincere devotion. The veneration is so complete that if someone accidentally steps on a rat and kills it, they are expected to buy a gold or silver rat and place it in the temple as atonement.
For an animal that is commonly associated with pestilence and disease, this may seem strange. But during the century of this temple's existence, there has never been an outbreak of plague or other ratborne illness among the humans who have visited—which may be a miracle in itself.
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National Geography is right.
But what they are saying is beyond your ability to understand.
In short religions are not logical or scientific system of thoughts they are bizarre beliefs reflective of Man's journey from jungle to cyber age.
In the mean time Mullah make your mind peacful with following...
I have good penis karma: Pamela [ THURSDAY, OCTOBER 21, 2004 10:12:40 PM ]http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/photo.cms?msid=895369 LONDON: Baywatch babe and now best-selling author Pamela Anderson has revealed that she has 'good penis karma ,' i.e. all her past lovers have been well endowed. The actress, who recently wrote her autobiography Star said that she had never seen a small penis until recently. She also revealed that as a youngster she was scared that she would not be good in bed and wouldn't be able to stay in a steady relationship, reports Female First . "I've always had very good penis karma . I used to say I'd never seen a small one, but recently, maybe I have," the report quoted her as saying. "When I first came to California, I was nervous, thinking, 'I don't know if I can handle how to be with someone.' Then I realised it was all talk, talk, talk. Big hat, no cattle, as my dad used to say," she added.